April 12, 2014
Empathy, or projection?
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April 12th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Enjoyed the explanation between the two!
April 21st, 2014 at 11:55 am
I think you expained empathy better than Carl Rogers who did a pretty good job of it.
April 21st, 2014 at 1:29 pm
High praise indeed, since I know you knew Saint Carl personally. Thanks. 🙂
October 8th, 2015 at 1:18 am
Thank you for this…I recently debated this very thing with a friend who accused me of projecting,(but I know I was empathizing) lololol This helped me re-solidify my conviction 🙂
Thank you
March 8th, 2016 at 7:18 am
I would encourage you to write more on this. It’s very rare that people empathize. It’s almost always projection. You make the correct point that projection is subconscious. This is what makes empathy dangerous to use. You think you’re empathizing, but you’re really projecting.
Heinz Kohut spent much of his life studying this phenomena.
March 8th, 2016 at 7:30 am
I have actually, a little. Chapter 33 of my book Monkeytraps: Why Everybody Tries to Control Everything and How We Can Stop is titled “Superpowers,” and begins:
No, I can’t read your mind.
No, I can’t predict the future.
No, that doesn’t stop me from trying.
Welcome to the wonderful world of projection.
November 7th, 2016 at 3:09 am
Even after his explanation, I still think empathy is a form of projection, maybe even the same. Im thinking how someoneelse would think in his position based on the experience and the emotions i am able to bring up myself. That is in fact a projection!
“Awareness. Projection tends to be unconscious, an automatic reaction. We don’t even know we’re doing it. But empathy takes some conscious effort.” – So compassion and pitifulness is no empathy?
“Focus. My projecting is really about me. My empathizing is really about you.” – So when i try to feel how someone else feels, im not projecting my own experiences and emotions of what i think of how he feels on him? Seems absurd to me.
“How would I feel if I were you?” – That is literally projecting the own experience and basis of emotions on how i think that another beeing feels.
I think the problem of rejecting the idead that both is the same arises by the one-sided use of the word “projection” as a negative connotated term, and the will to have a positive connotated counterpart. This would also explain why this differentiation is often done in only english language. I cant see a logical difference between projection and empathy.
November 7th, 2016 at 9:50 am
I agree that the underlying mechanisms of projection and empathy are similar.
But I think we distinguish them in English with two words for a reason, and the reason is motive.
Again, I see projection (and this includes not just the sort we do with other people, but with an uncertain future — as in “I worry that X will happen tomorrow”) as essentially defensive. We project in order to guess what bad thing may hurt us, in order to avoid or eliminate that danger.
Empathy comes from a stronger, less frightened place. Yes, when I try to empathize with your feelings I’m essentially projecting my own experience. But I do this not to defend against pain, but to take a step closer to understanding you. Where projection tries to defend, empathy tries to connect.
In therapy my work with people who project a lot tends to be very different from my work with the strongly empathic. The former usually need help with anxiety, and in distinguishing here/now from events and people that wounded them in the past. Empathic people generally feel safe enough in their own skins to see here/now clearly, and so are less paranoid and more generous in relationships.
I’m certainly grateful I don’t have to use the same word to describe both sorts of projection.
December 18th, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Is it possible to be able to project exact emotions and be an empath?
December 19th, 2016 at 3:00 pm
No idea. I’ve never met an empath, outside of science fiction. But my understanding is that empaths have a psychic ability to read the feelings of other people, not project their own.
May 11th, 2017 at 1:01 pm
Not sure if my other comment worked, sorry if I’m posting twice… but I really enjoyed this article! What would your thoughts be on children and projection? Do children project? I was an extremely empathetic child and often reflect back wondering if I was sometimes projecting instead.
May 11th, 2017 at 7:05 pm
Sure, kids project all the time. How else can they navigate their way through a world in which they have so little control and power? Inevitably they try to guess what’s going to happen to them in the future (in my book I call this fortunetelling) and how other people will see them or feel about them or treat them (I call this mindreading). Every kid does this.
The more anxious the kid, though, the more projections. Kids abused at home, for example, carry a higher level of anxiety, so when they go out into the world they can’t help projecting that anxiety onto people they meet — anyone who reminds them in some way of the abuser. (If Dad beats me, I’m likely to be uneasy around all male authority figures. If Mom criticizes and humiliates me, it will be hard to feel safe around women. And so on.)
Many of these kids grow into adults who continue to project their anxieties, often to a degree that causes them problems.
Actually I tend to believe that whenever anyone projects it’s a sign that his or her Inner Kid has been triggered into trying to protect itself.
May 12th, 2017 at 1:09 pm
Thank you for your response. I used to think I was an extremely empathetic child, like being able to feel my mother’s feelings and aches and pains etc, or cry for my brother when maybe he should have been crying instead, if he injured himself or something… I’m curious if I was projecting -my- pain instead due to being a super sensitive kid. I find the difference between empathy and projection so fascinating yet still difficult to differentiate the 2 sometimes (less as an adult maybe?)… even though you’ve explained it all so well 🙂
May 12th, 2017 at 4:46 pm
I’m in the process of writing a new post on projection. Should be up in a day or so. Hope it helps.
May 22nd, 2017 at 10:35 pm
How do we tell the difference between a healthy and a non-healthy projection. Since our projection is our reality what is obvious to some may not be for others. If we have faulty projections how do we modify them to navigate the world more successfully.
May 25th, 2017 at 4:33 pm
I think that’s something you learn only over time, as you get to know yourself and what triggers your anxiety.
I described one way to go about this in a post titled “This will be awful,” here: